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In Reply to: Re: Primerica: Why it's just anyother Multi-Tier Marketing Scam posted by JEREMY THOMAS on August 17, 2005 at 06:39:01:
: : QUICK SUMMERY: JUST ANOTHER SCAM!! DON'T DO IT!!, DONT SIGN Up!! IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE... IT IS!!
: : Ok heres some logic. Suppose I tell you that if you sign your family up with my insurance policy I'll give you $1500. That is precisely what Primerica is.
: : They beat around the bush, throw facts and figures but really what they are looking for you to do is sign your family up with their financial programs.
: : Fact is that if you invest $10,000 for someone for 25 years with the S&P500 index (14%). It will roughly inflate to $260,000. Your program offers to pay them %12 a year (which is a lot more then what your bank will do) they will make $170000. That means that Primerica made roughly $100,000 doing business with you. So of course they can pay you $1,000 - $2,000 as a sign up bonus.
: : Now lets take it a step further. From what I've heard (I left in the middle of the lecture) they want you to recruit 3 people by doing so making $3000 off their labor. THATS IF THEY LABOR. Now suppose you find 3 people, you have to make sure they recruit 3 people a piece so that you can collect $15000 a month. However, you now have 9 people at the bottom of the pyramid who all wish to be making commission off other people laboring.
: : FACT IS THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PYRAMID HUNGRY TO SIGN PEOPLE UP.
: : There will always be a huge drop out rate and while you may have made a $100,000 by recruiting x amount of people... it's really cheap change compared to the money Primerica made off of you and it's short term money in that eventually you won't be able to find new recruits and/or new people to sign up for their finanical programs.
: : So what happens at this point is the pyramid collapses bottom up and eventually you will find yourself having no recruits to capitalize on and be forced to drop out yourself.
: : I can show you facts and figures but it's all in the works. I'm currently working on a site bashing Multi-Tier Marketing. Primerica, Marker America, etc..
: : Feel free to contact me. I left my contact details in this thread and don't hate me cause I differ in opinion. Fact is I'm trying to do you a favor by pointing out some not-so-obvious flaws. You may make some money using this program but remember:
: : A: it's a lot harder then it seems
: : B: That money may or may not be there forever
: : C: Don't rush to sign your own family up, sign up strangers first and see how hard it is.
: ANY PERSON THAT READS THIS GARBAGE, AND THINKS THERE IS ANY TRUTH TO IT, IS AS UNINFORMED AS THE PERSON THAT PRODUCED IT. HE THINKS, HE GATHERS, OBVIOUSLY, HE DOES NEITHER PARTICULARLY WELL. HE SAT THROUGH HALF THE PRESENTATION, AND PRESUMES TO KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE COMPANY TO MAKE THESE REDICULOUS ACCUSSATIONS. ALL THAT HE HAS SAID IS AS BASELESS, AND TASTELESS AS IT IS RECKLESS, AND IRRESPONSIBLE. PRIMERICA IS THE LARGEST FINANCIAL SERVICES COMPANY IN THE WORLD. TO IMPLY THAT A COMPANY IS A SCAM BECAUSE IT MAKES MORE MONEY OFF A TRANSACTION THAN IT PAYS ITS'EMPLOYEES IS REDICULOUS. THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST BASIC ECONOMIC PRINCIPLE. THERE IS NO COMPANY IN THE WORLD THAT DOES NOT DO THE SAME THING. HOWEVER, ASK YOURSELF THIS,HE STIPULATES THAT AS THE COMPANY CLAIMS YOU WILL MAKE 100K A YEAR, WHEN WILL THE COMPANY THAT HE WORKS FOR PAY HIM THAT? I WONDER. PRIMERICAS MISSION TO HELP GET OUT FROM UNDER THEIR DEBT, AND RETIRE AT A REASONABLE AGE FINANCIALY SECURE ENOUGH NOT TO HAVE TO WORK AT WAL-MART,OR McDONALDS UNTIL THEY DIE IS PRETTY NOBLE IF YOU ASK ME. GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM SOMEONE THAT IS ACTUALY INFORMED, NOT SOME IRRESPONSIBLE, CARELESS PERSON WHO WAS TOO LAZY TO EVEN SIT THROUGH ONE WHOLE PRESENTATION AND GET THE WHOLE STORY. I AM 1MILLION PERCENT PRIMERICAN, AND I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF IT. IT MY,AND ALL PRIMERICANS GOAL TO HELP PERSON IN THE WORLD LIVE A BETTER,MORE SECURE LIFE,FREE FROM THE STRIFE OF IMPROPER PLANNING FOR THEIR RETIREMENT, AND TO PROVIDE THEM A MEANS BY WHICH THEY MIGHT ACHEIVE THIER LIFE'S GOAL.THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE,IF YOU THE REAL STORY YOU CAN CONTACT ME AT ttllucidity@my.com or gavv7@primericaonline.com
: THANK YOU,
: JEREMY THOMAS
My wife and I were almost taken by your Primerica brainwashing schemes but after doing a little bit of research, we won't touch it. I've yet to read anything good about your organization; the parallels between our own early experiences and others' experiences are too close to ignore.
I read of families breaking up because of your scam, I read that the new recruit forfeits any hope of receiving money from his ventures until he gains his own recruits, on whom he can step and take advantage of. I read so much that outweighs the weak little arguments of you Primericans.
Your accusation makes the gentleman sound uninformed or impulsive but the fact is that there are HUNDREDS of stories for anyone who's even a little bit motivated to search around on the web. We are going to cancel the insurance that we purchased through your "company" and will certainly not sign on to push your products.
If you Primericans are morally bankrupt or brainwashed enough to continue taking advantage of fellow humans, then I guess you have the right. It's free society. I notice you quote the Bible, though, at the end of your little discourse. That's a nice little irony. "The truth will set you free." I guess Primericans aren't free of hypocrisy.
BTW, learn to spell. You might have a bit more credibility.