Re: Re: Re: JAX -new thread

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Posted by eric (167.88.192.30) on December 09, 2002 at 15:29:30:

In Reply to: Re: Re: JAX -new thread posted by jax on December 09, 2002 at 15:10:16:

: : : Jax, lets start a new thread. I will post UNDER your responses to keep it mor clear and linear.
: : : Eric
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: : Jax,
: : VA's are tricky as to whom you sell them to and why.
: : If the client wants the death benefit, why not Life Insurance? You can leverage assets instantly, and they go tax-free to heirs instead of in a VA. Fund a SPIA, and use the payments to fund the Life policy...(and you get paid twice :)
: : The death benefit isnt very helpful if you cant lock in gains with a step up rider, and those add expense, and cut off at certain ages. Also, lets remember, you have to DIE to take advantage of a death benefit. Living benefits can help there, but again...more expense.
: : Annuitization should NOT be an option...there is no flexibilty after you make that irrevocable decision. If the client wants income...what about Bonds? Tak Free Munis?
: : I sell VA's for their flexibility. The client can keep contributing tax deferred, but can be in or out of the market in a phone call.
: : Eric

: Why not sell life ins.? That is a different story.

: Let's say that we only use the standard death benefit of return of prem. , then the VA becomes like a MF, with the downside guarantee. For very little, your client can have a stepped-up death benefits, and No VA I sell does the death benefit go away at any age.

: I deal in the senior market mostly. Life ins, which I sell a lot of ,VUL, it is good for transferring wealth, but itis not for everyone. Look at the surrender charges in life ins.

: Some people want to annuitize, however, I don't recommend it in most cases.

: I do a lot of systematic withdrawls. In fact, I have a lot of clients withdrawing from the VA to the VUL in the same company.
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Jax,
Step-up in Death Benefit does go away, as early as 70 in some contracts. Of course, the plain ole' DB never goes away.
The problem with the downside protection, is they have to die to get it.
Have you looked into the split annuity?
Most goes into a fixed, that will grow to the original principal amount in x yrs. The rest goes into a VA to get growth potential.
Worst case scenario, the client is guaranteed principle and doesnt have to die, and the growth is theirs as well.
Eric




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