Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A THOUGHT HAS JUST OCCURRED TO ME

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A THOUGHT HAS JUST OCCURRED TO ME

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: STEVE: : As it stands right now, it is only an inquiry. Citigroup does not deny lending money to Enron, they admit it. What the feds want to find out is if Citigroup knew what Enron was up to. I highly doubt they did, cause Enron had everyone duped. Citigroup is one of the largest lenders in the world, the fact that they lent Enron some money in the past does not make them guilty. Enron applied for a loan, they looked at Enrons books, and granted them a loan. Citigroup didnt know that there books were fraudulant. : At least this is how I understand it. : Vince. : : Vince: : : There's no doubt that Weill has talent in his field. But what do you think of him now that he has at least 2 class actions filed against him for Enron-style cooking of the books, and also that he is charged with being an accessory to the Enron fraud? I mine, does it matter that you gain the world if you lose yourself in the process? I would rather be an poor, honest man, than a rich deceitful one. : : : : : : TO: KEN : : : No, I don't work for PFS and I have no affiliation with them. I don't believe half the crap you say, nor do I understand the other half. It's not do to my intelligence, it's do to your lack there of. You write the most illegible sentences I have ever seen. You ramble on more than an 80-year-old woman on crack. By the way, your pathetic website says Primerica/Citicorp. Well buddy, according to the June issue of Money Magazine (a well respected publication), Citicorp and Travelers Group merged in 1996 and became CitiGroup. They also call Sandy Weill the "Wizard of Wall street" and say "Sandy has made his shareholders rich". "Chief Executive Officer" magazine named him CEO of the year as indicated here http://www.chiefexecutive.net/depts/ceooftheyear/180.htm. Forbes Magazine (Very Reputable) lists CitiGroup as the number one company in the world as shown here http://www.forbes.com/2002/03/27/forbes500.html. You see Kenny, these are reputable sources that people should look at for real information. I feel sorry for people that turn to you for information; my 8-year-old daughter gives me more useful information than you ever will. : : : Vince. : : : : : : : TO: VINCE : : : : Here are some second additional thoughts on you posted message. : : : : Fist of all, my mission as it has always been is to be upfront with consumers having a need for my service when I was active as an insurance agent. : : : : You are correct that the old A.L. Williams gang now known as the PFS Sales Division attemted to replace the inforce insurance I had sold. The figure of the attempts were 123 times they attempted to do so. Unfortunately for those attemptees, they were only successfull three times. : : : : Now, out of those three times, when those clients learned they had been hoodwinked by the inducement presentations of the PFS agents, they contacted me and in turn I replaced the MILICO policy they had purchased from the PFS agent. The other client moved away from Dallas and I do not know what happened to him. : : : : You have your story all wrong or could it be that you know the true facts about what transpired initiating litigation between A.L. Williams and MILICO working in concert with each other against me. If you truly do not know the circumstances I will repeat them to you but the documents supporting what I am about to relate to you can be located on my website located on the internet address of http://home1.gte.net/kenyoung and http://primerabuster.bravepages.com : : : : I had published a training manual and made it available at my cost to professional and well informed insurance agents on my method of exposing the false, misleading and deceptive business practices inducements of the now known as PFS Sales Division. : : : : When at one time the sales division was running rampant with nobody having an effect way to combat their misrepresentations once my training manual was known to the industry, the training manual took off like a rocket with thousands of copies being ordered. : : : : Because of the previously unchallenged replacements now being challenged, PFSers walking away empty handed in their replacement attempts, and the tide changing against them, both MILICO and A.L. Williams Jr. (now known as Primerica and the PFS Sales Division)knew that something had to be done to stop the distribution and purchase of the training manual I had published. : : : : So, both MILICO and Art Williams sponsored a lawsuit naming me as the Plaintiff wanting to enjoin my training manual from publication and distribution. : : : : In response to the lawsuit they initiated against me, inturn I sued them under the Texas Deceptive Business Practices Laws. : : : : Art Williams keep avoiding to appear at he ordered deposition finding one excuse after another that he was unable to attend the court ordered deposition. My attorney asked the court to order monitory sanctions against him for not attending his own deposition. The court gave him a certain length of time to appear under the deposition subpoena or pay a $1,000 a day fine. : : : : In the interim while in Atlanta deposing one of Art's Senior Executives, my attorneyu caught the Sr. Executive lying in his courtsworn deposition and confronted the Sr. Executive with documents to illustrate that he was lying which could lead him into serious legal problems himself. The Sr. Executive broke down and started to cry. : : : : Seeing how upset the Sr. Exec was, that evening the lawfirm representing MILICO and Art Williams in the counter suit approached my attorney and me at our Atlanta Hotel we were staying at and asked us if we would consider entering into an out-of-court settlement. : : : : Now keeping in mind that they initiated the lawsuit against me and that they initiated the request to reach an out of court settlement with me, in the final settlement terms I beat Art Williams aned MILICO's brains in per se. : : : : I gave up nothing, and they ponied up $75,000 damages to me free and clear which buy the way was a nice sum of money in lump sum almost twent-years ago, I did not pay penny-one of my own attorney fees, and to boot I forced them to publish what is commonly known as the "14-point Compliance Poison Pill" distributing it to their field force via memo and published in their in-house PFS publication at that time. : : : : The required statement was an admission by the Williams organization that many of the inducement orchestrations they were using was not factual. : : : : You can view the 14-point poison pill compliance statement on my website if you have not already seen it. It is among my personal credentials posted to my website. : : : : When Art Williams through Primerica crawled into bed with the Citigroup, the plague began all over again with the use of the Sales Organizations false, misleading and deceptive business inducement orchestrations. : : : : I then awoke from my very comfortable rest knowing that I had at one time performed my part and I then saw my need to enter the the ring once again to expose their new round of deceptive business practices, but this time sharing my information without cost to either me or consumers and professional insurance agents. : : : : Finally, I can understand your frustrations, in as much as, it appears by the tone of your message that you are a PFS "Dork" {the uninformed) yourself. : : : : Based upon the tone of your own personal frustrations with my work, it appears that your pocketbook has been effected by my work of exposing the deceit of the PFS Sales Division. : : : : Now I have given you a count of how many attempts were tried and all but three failed with two of those three coming back to me as my clients. : : : : I feel that you will decline my request, but would you care to share with the viewers of this message boards the numbers of consumer recruits you have lost due to my work of exposing fraud and how many sales of different PFS services you and your downlines have also lost due to my free public service? : : : : Now can you also explain to the viewers of this message board why to this very day the Primerica Corporate Home Office still finds a need for the past four years to monitor my website and my message boards? : : : : Could it be that in the four-years they have been : : : : monitoring what I have to say is still effecting them? : : : : Could it be that the recent changes you have had to comply with in the oranization's inducement orchestrations originated from what I had exposed on our message boards I sponsor and my website? : : : : According to the Primerica Home Office's own website admissions and disclosures, you may no longer orchestrate yourselves falsely to the public as being, "Insurance Advisors" "Financial Planners", "Financial Consultants", the FNA is not a true financial needs analysis work book, and that the chances of earning that alleged six figure income is less than 1.5% of the total Sales Force and chances of earning only $50,000 of Gross Income is only approximately 5.0% before personal expenses of doing business is subtracted from that figure. : : : : Sounds like to me that we are revisiting a new version of the "14-point Compliance Statement Poison Pill" my work plus with the assistance of a couple of other similar message boards are forcing the Primerica Corporate Home Office and the PFS Sales Division to swollow, but this time without so much bloodshed they suffered previously in the last confrontation. : : : : I hope this message has enlightened you to be more accurate in your posting and I join the posters and viewers to this messageboard in asking you to curb your curseword offensive language. : : : : Ken Young : : : : -------------------------------------------------- : : : : : : : : TO: ALL : : : : : : Since there are two regular posters to this message board who have made it their poit to avoid and ignore non-related PFS inquiries questions pertaining to insurance questions posted on all insurance matters, would it be fair and equitable for viewers and posters to this message board to avoid and ignore their posted message also? : : : : : : That is a decision the viewers of this message board will need to make for themselves. : : : : : : As for me, I believe that ever message of inquiry posted to this message board needs to be addressed. : : : : : : For one, I am thrilled to see a message board of this kind existing on the internet, not just a messsage board limited to one subject matter that those of us will full knowledge of insurance and financial services can be of some help to consumers looking for help and qualifed input. : : : : : : My belief is, if you are having a problem with your heart, you don't listen to a "Toe Doctor". You seek the advice and input of a Doctor who is qualified to help you solve you problem with your whole anatomy, even your heart. : : : : : : Ken Young : : : : : : -------------------------------------------------- : : : : : You must know about Ken Young. Ken Young has devoted his whole pathetic adult life to pissing on Primerica. He does this on his website. I find it ammusing that he asks that everything be adressed here, but when you go to his pathetic half-truth website, he states that Primerica Reps are not allowed to post there. What a jerk, to say the least. I wonder if Ken will ever get a life and move on with whatever life he has left. You see, he got mad years ago because Primerica (then AL Williams) reps were kicking his but and taking his accounts away from him. They did it by doing whats right, and undoing the wrong he had done to the clients. This pissed him off. His clients were getting mad at him for ripping them off. Him, knowing that he ripped them off and got caught, couldn't get mad at the client. So he had to turn to Primerica and get mad at them. He is an evil man. He has more hatred in his body than the devil himself. Ken, go to church and repent, you will need to cleanse yourself before the day of judgement. Stop being so bitter and get on with your life. : : : : :

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