Re: Re: Re: Re: REFINANCING YOUR MORTGAGE THROUGH THE PFS SALES DIVISION

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: REFINANCING YOUR MORTGAGE THROUGH THE PFS SALES DIVISION

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: : TO: KEN YOUNG : : FROM: VINCE : What is your fax number? Where did your "victim" get it from? Please Please Please tell us all your fax number!!!! : Vince : : : TO: MISLED : : FROM: KEN YOUNG : : First think....You would have been better served to direct your criticizims to "steve", he is the one who challenged the information. : : Secondly...As I stated in my posting the information was faxed to me by the victim. She was there, you were not, so you do not know what was told to her. Therefore, unless you have any documentation to support your response to me, we all must assume that the victim knows more about what happened then you do, right? : : I have asked you time and time again every time you post a message in your ongoing attempts to hold me up for ridicule on any of the messsage boards we post to on the internet asking you to reference the information that you are posting stating that I am wrong. You have refused to do so. : : The next question I have asked you time and time again that you have also refused to respond to is, since you had claimed to be with the PFS Sales Division for nearly seven years and had moved up the line in the MLM Pyramid type of management standard order of proceedure at PFS, if you had personally (a) conducted or spoke at the "flopportunity meetings", (b) If you had ever personally used the false, misleading and deceptive inducement orchestrations to entice consumers to engage into a business relationship with Primerica, (c) If you personally had ever trained those underlings in your heirarchy to do the same, and (D), if you are denying that while still appointed to conduct busness with Primerica you intitiated your own message board putting down the same questionable business practices you still were engaged in using and training agents to use prior to Prmerica cancelling you appointment agreement with them? : : In addition to the above, I have also asked you the question if you would still be with Primerica acting in the same capacity of bilking the public if the company had not cancelled your appointment working agreement with them? : : With the exception of stating in a message to me that you never partook in those meetings, (yeah right) stating that you always sat in the background and let others speak and recruit, you have refused to respond to my quesions. : : In addition, I asked you then by what authority you speak as a spokesperson to inform consumers how evil the PFS Sales Division is and you have admitted to me in the form of a messasge, you have no authority to. : : But never the less in your guest to pass yourself off as one of the white hat good guys you jump onto this message board with the intent of bashing my well known reputation among professional agents in the industry. : : Who gave you that authority to do so, "steve"? : : When I refer to my track record and my credentials which can be viewed on the website I sponsor, you challenge my well known reputations within the industry as being "credentials". : : Now listen up and listen good PFS. The posters, viewers and consumers who are seeking help here are not interested in viewing messages bantying back and forth between the good guys like myself and the bad guys wearing the black hats who are attempting to misdirect the intent of this message board which is not the narrow subject of Primerica and the company's sales division. : : In addition, they are not interested interrupted by you and your deadly crew of three or four consistantanly attempting to disrupt this message board with your gang's worthless messages attempting to discredit me. : : You keep mentioning PFS misinformation, but yet you find no fault in the many other information I post. : : On the other side of the coin, the viewers have not witnessed any of your gang's membership posting any information they are seeking about non-related subjects. Therefore it would be safe for them to assume that your gang doesn't have any knowledge pertaining to them. : : Now if the viewers wanted to obtain just the narrow category of PFS information, they could go to any message strictl PFS information dedicated board they chose to in order to obtain it which seems a reasonable solution to your gang attempting to change the direction of this message board. : : To the contrary, if someone were to post an inquiry pertaining to PFS, then by all means all three of you jump in and assist them and so will I. So what's wrong with that solution to the problem your gang is attempting to create here? : : To misdirect this boards viewers to a bash Ken Young second message board is not in the best interest of consumers. To irritate consumers with the retoric your gang posts is a sign that the three of you are only attempting to disrupt this message board driving its viewers and posters off of it to the PFS message boards you and "steve" sponsor, and if that is your motive, that's evil, heinous and bad, as well as self serving. : : So if you are attempting to repent and be reborn again because you have developed a conscience over the fact of how you personally knowingly and intetionally were involved in ripping off the public for a near seven year period, you are going about it in the wrong manner by posting your nonsence here. : : If your gang's posture is to intimidate the viewers, posters, and inquirers to leaving this message board, I will let you get away with it only over my dead body. : : Take it for what it is worth and start conducting yourselves accordingly. : : Ken Young : : -------------------------------------------------- : : e expression "flopportunity meeting" is when Freak : : : : : Actually, there was a short-lived program at Primerica called the "Debt Freedom Program". It may have been before or after you were at Primerica. Primerica reps mainly used this with clients that they couldn't get qualified for a SMART loan, but it was also used with the mortgage clients as well. The DFP, was very expensive to set up ($700) and had monthly maintenance fees. Here's how it worked. The client had to commit to $100 in addition to what ever their monthly debt payments were. For the first seven months the entire $100 went toward the set up fee. After that, $90 went to pay extra on the debts and $10 went to the maintenance fee. The premise was the same as with the bi-weekly, send extra money, pay it off faster. : : : Ken, as for the work “flopportunity” it was around long before “freak” ever showed up. : : : As for the “intended victim” not dealing with directly with the loan company, Ken, you are wrong. It is possible and happens quite frequently. In fact, the “Solutions Center” as it is called, will take the application and complete everything except the closing right over the phone. The client need only give the name of the referring Primerica rep and then they can deal directly with the “Loan Company” as you called it. : : : Ken, as for your posting of “THE DEBT FREE STATEMENT IS JOINED TOGETHER WITH THE FNA TO ESTABLISH THE INTENDED VICTIMS NEEDS TO GET OUT OF DEBT”, you are wrong. The Debt Freedom Statement is NOT used with the FNA. The Debt Freedom Statement is a monthly statement that the client receives that shows them exactly where their extra $100 dollars is going and what debts are paid off, when each one will be paid off and how much total interest they have saved and paid by participating in the program. : : : As for anyone bashing and libeling you, Ken, that is not happening. What is happening is the correcting of your misinformed postings.

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