Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gastric bypass surgery

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Posted by Keith (216.222.46.178) on June 22, 2003 at 19:48:51:

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gastric bypass surgery posted by Ken Young on June 22, 2003 at 19:37:23:

I cannot believe I am doing this.

I must completely disagree that Dr. Atkin's Diet is dangerous, leads to cholesterol problems, kidney failure or anything of the sort.

I have read the studies (not connected in any way to Dr. Atkins) and they support the diet. LDL Cholesterol levels decrease with the diet. Blood sugar is stabilized. Pre diabetic conditions are remedied.

Read the books. Read the studies. Do not believe the hype either way.

Lost 23 pounds myself in the last 2 months and my blood pressure is down as well.

Hate to say it, dread to say it, but Kenny is actually right on this one.

Keith


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: MESSAGE BOARD SPONSOR"

: AGENT HASN'T CHANGED IN YEARS. HE STILL IS CONFUSED.

: I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO VESTED INTEREST IN THE ATKINS DIET WHAT SO EVER. THE ATKINS DIET INSTRUCTS IT USERS TO TAKE SUPPLEMENT VITAMINS DURING THE USE OF IT.

: AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, IF IN FACT CONSUMERS USING THE DIET HAD SUFFERED ADVERSE EFFECTS BY THE DIET, LAWSUITS WOULD HAVE BEEN FILED WHICH IS NOT THE CASE AS THEY HAVE BEEN WITH CONSUMERS WHO HAVE USED OTHER WELL KNOWN DIET PLANS.

: THE ATKINS DIET HAS BEEN ATTACKED AS BEING UNHEALTHY FOR YEARS BY IT'S COMPETITORS, BUT TO NO AVAIL.

: THE POSTER "AGENT" REMINDS ME OF ONE OF THOSE SURGEONS WHO WANTS TO CUT PEOPLE UP PRIOR TO FIRST TRYING AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD OF CORRECTING A PHYSICAL PROBLEM.

: I OWE MY OWN LIFE TO A ONCHOLOGIST WHO SUGGESTED THAT I FIRST GO THROUGH AN ALTERNATIVE SURGERY PROCESS BY SHRINKING A MALIGNANT TUMOR AND KILLING ITS GROWTH THEN HAVING IT REMOVED BY A SURGEON INSTEAD OF LETTING A SURGEON SIMPLY REMOVE IT.

: THE GROWTH NEVER REACHED ANY LYMPH GLANDS WHICH IT COULD HAVE POSSSIBLE DONE IF I HAD LET A SURGEON CUT ME UP. NEED I SAY MORE IF A CANCEROUS GROWTH GETS INTO ONE'S LYMPTH NODES.

: I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED AS COMPLETELY CURED OF ANY CANCER WHAT SO EVER.

: TO THE CONTRARY, KNOWING WHO THE POSTER AGENT REALLY IS IN REAL LIFE, HE MAY WANT TO SUBMIT HIMSELF TO A BRAIN SCAN TO SEE IF THERE IS A BRAIN TUMOR PUTTING PRESSURE ON HIS LOGICAL THINKING THAT IS EFFECTING HIM IN CAUSING HIM TO BE SO VIOLENT IN HIS POSTINGS DIRECTED AT ME.

: THE POSTER "AGENT" ATTACKS ANYONE WHO CORRECTS THE HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE ONE-SIDED INFORMATION HE POSTS TO THE INTERNET. HIS TRACK RECORD OF FAILURE UPON FAILURE IN THE INDUSTRY AS TO HIS INABILITY TO PROPERLY PERFORM IS THE PROOF OF THIS IN ITSELF.

: HIS FETISH OF WANTING TO BE RECOGNIZED IN THE INDUSTRY AFTER FAILING THREE TIMES TRYING TO MAKE A GO AT IT IS ILLUSTRATED ON MANY MESSAGE BOARDS INCLUDING YOURS.

: HERE IS WHAT HE DOES. HE WILL READ UP ON A SUBJECT AND THEN POST A MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET IN THE FORM OF AN INQUIRY USING A PSEUDO NAME AND IP ADDRESS WHEN HE POSTS.

: HE WILL THEN RESPOND TO HIS OWN MESSAGE ATTEMPTING TO HOODWINK THE VIEWERS OF MESSAGE BOARDS INTO BELIEVING THAT HE IS WELL VERSED ON THE SUBJECT. A CHARLATAN'S GAME FOR SURE.

: WANTING TO GAIN NOTORIETY AND RESPECT FOR ONCE IN HIS LIFE, HIS HIDDEN OBJECTIVE IS TO BE SOLICITED AS A INSURANCE FRAUD EXPERT IN HIS ATTEMPT TO BRING BACK FROM THE GRAVE HIS SHORT LIVED NOW DEAD CONSULTING BUSINESS.

: JUST AS I SAID YOU COULD EXPECT FROM HIM, DID YOU NOTICE THAT HE AVOIDED ONCE AGAIN TO RESPOND TO THE "DO YOU ADMIT OR DENY" QUESTIONS I POSED TO HIM?

: BY THE WAY BOARD SPONSOR, HE IS THE SAME POSTER WHO POSTED A MESSAGE TO YOUR BOARD UNDER A DIFFERENT POSTING NAME CALLING YOU A "KEN YOUNG A## KISSER".

: EXAMINE THE SCENARIO, BOARD SPONSOR. THE POSTER AGENT REFUSES TO IDENTIFY WHO HE REALLY IS NOT WANTING ANYONE TO KNOW.

: HE SITS AT HIS KEYBOARD 24/7 POSTING MESSAGES WHICH FURTHER SUPPORTS HE DOES NOT HAVE A REGULAR JOB IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS.

: THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEGITIMATE THAT POST QUESTIONS HERE HE REFERS TO THE E-MAIL ADDRESS OF A DIFFERENT MESSAGE BOARD OTHER THAN YOURS WANTING THEM TO CONTACT HIM.

: HE IS USING YOUR PUBLICATION AS A SPRINGBOARD TO SOLICIT BROKERAGE BUSINESS FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WILL PAY HIM A BIRD-DOG FEE BECAUSE HE IS NOT LICENSED, WHICH BY THE WAY IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE "DO YOU ADMIT OR DENY" LICENSING QUESTIONS HE WILL NOT RESPOND TO.

: ALSO, YOU MAY ALSO NOTE THAT EACH AND EVERY TIME I POST A RESPONSE TO A LEGITIMATE INQUIRY WITH A QUALIFED RESPONSE TO IT, HE WILL MAKE A VICIOUS ATTACK AT ME.

: YOU SEE BOARD SPONSOR, HE KNOWS THAT I STAND IN HIS WAY OF ATTAINING THE HIDDEN OBJECTIVES HE IS ATTEMPTING TO ATTAIN USING HIS USUAL DUBIOUS PATH TO OBTAIN THEM.

: HE POSES ABSOLUTELY NO THREAT TO ME WHAT SO EVER BECAUSE I AM QUITE FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT IN MY RETIREMENT. OBVIOUS BY MY EXPOSING HIM IN HIS FACADE BY UNCOVERING THAT HE IS A CHARLATAN, I POSE A TERRIBLE THREAT TO HIM AND THAT SPONSOR IS THE REASON FOR HIS ATTACKS AT ME.

: WELL, I WILL GO NOW AND KEEP AN EYE ON MY E-MAIL, BECAUSE AFTER HE READS THIS MESSAGE I AM SURE TO FIND IN MY E-MAIL AT LEAST SIX VIRUS FILLED MESSAGES AND A DOZEN SPAM MESSAGES.

: THIS HAPPENS EVERY TIME I EXPOSE HIM REGARDLESS IF HE IS POSTING UNDER THE NAME OF AGENT OR ANY OF THE NUMBEROUS OTHER POSTING NAMES HE USES TO POST UNDER.

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: : Message board owner,

: : Ken is confused. I am not who he says I am.

: : At the same time, he doesn't understand that somebody with chronic health problems, including those with morbid obesity who are candidates for gastric bypass surgery, need to be extremely careful. They can not simply "try" the Atkins diet without serious consideration for their cardiopulmonary health and the health of their liver and kidneys. A list of dangers, from:

: : http://www.leonardfitness.com/atkinsdiet.htm

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: : includes the following:

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: : If someone were to be consistent with the Atkins diet, they may run into the following problems: bad breath, gout (painful inflammation of the joints), high cholesterol (LDL = bad), kidney damage, weakness, bad (acne) or dry skin, thinning hair, increased risk of having a heart attack, yellowish instead of white eye balls, set back or sunken eye balls, muscle loss, frequent urination, vitamin and mineral loss, health related problems due to improper nutrition balance, and attitude or mood changes due to bad nutrition.
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: : Also,

: : http://www.health101.org/art_Atkins_diet.htm

: : includes grave warnings about doubling the risk of colon cancer and other cancers, and massive kidney failure.

: :
: : Ken is making it sound as though this would be a simple change not requiring medical consultation. IT IS NOT.

: : This is a potentially severe situation and you must not allow medically innappropriate and irresponsible advice to remain on this message board.





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